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# SIG/AltArch meeting 2024-01-12
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## Attendees:
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* Sherif
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* Bryan
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* Neil Hanlon
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* Skip Grube
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* Jason Rodriguez
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* Jonathan Maple
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## Follow Ups
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* SBC Testing with *vendor* uboot - https://git.resf.org/codedude/SBC-Testing
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* Basically everything is working except one of the Libre boards (Frite)
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* https://git.resf.org/codedude/SBC-Testing/src/branch/main/testing/details.md
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* Whack-a-mole with kernel options and support for different kernels
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* Might be possible to patch for RK3389, as enabling this board breaks Libre borads
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* Also is possible to disable USB2 for RK3389, but this is not preferable
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* Kernel Config - RHEL vs Kernel KConfigs
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* SIG/Kernel kernel is based on the Fedora Rawhide branch of kernel, but uses the KConfig named ['.redhat'](https://gitlab.com/cki-project/kernel-ark/-/blob/os-build/Kconfig.redhat)
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* We want to use this as a base, and change config options as needed to enable SBCs
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* January 2024 UBoot is out with fixes, should help with some of the reliance on Vendor UBoots
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* Bryan will work on testing new uboot with these boards for next meeting
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* OSU OSL has arm hardware available for us, this will help enable armhfp/arm7vl/32-bit arm
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* Hoping to have this ready to build things in the beginning of February
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* RISCV hardware
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* Should look at getting a few more SiFive VF2
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## Open Floor
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* Raspberry Pi 5 Support
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* check upstream for firmware, throw into our repo, rebuild image and test
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## Action Items
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* Build Jan 2024 UBoot - Sherif
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* Raspberry Pi 5 Support - Skip
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* Order RPI 5 hardware for testers/altarch - Neil
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* ~~Maybe buy this locally in London instead for Pablo~~ -- nevermind they're not in London...
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* Pimironi or pihut - ship to Sherif
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* Neil to actually make tickets for the follow ups / decisions. But, like, for real this time
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* I'm really going to do it this week, I promise.
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* Setup ARM hardware for armhfp - neil
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* Neil to figure out what RISCv hardware we need
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## Old business
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### 2023-12-15
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* Neil to actually make tickets for the follow ups / decisions. But, like, for real this time.
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* Neil to reach out to people re: ARMHFP hardwares
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* Ampere
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* OSUOSL
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* Fabian (arrfab)
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* Neil to figure out what RISCv hardware we need
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* Announce Dec 29th meeting cancelation
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### 2023-10-20
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#### Action Items
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* Libre Compute - Try/Investigate using vendor tree to build uboot - Pratham
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* Investigate `arm-image-installer` script/tool for helping write disk images for specific boards - Sherif (?)
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* Odroid N2 - Track installability
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* Orange Pi 5 - Track installability
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* Rock5b - Track installability
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* Libre Computing Boards (3)
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* Maintenance - Importing dependencies from Fedora/EPEL
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* Document process on backporting uboot and kernels - Pablo
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* To include information on how we work and interact with upstreams, with examples! - Sherif
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* Check and investigate which boards have hardcoded grubx64 paths in their uboot; address them
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* Acquire armhfp (arm7vl) hardware - Neil to reach out to OSU OSL
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* Neil - Investigate what and how much riscv hardware we need.. and where we'll host it
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#### Decisions
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* Images should be generic so as to be able to be installed on any board, where possible.
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* uboot can live on SPI or external flash
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* We need to help document this for our users and have guides on how to get the SBCs working. This is a big pain point for many SBC users as there is so much variation.
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* To this end, we should investigate some tooling to aid in writing images for boards which will boot on the first try.
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* Uboot should similarly be generic and work for all boards, insofar as it is practical to do so.
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* Some boards this doesn't make sense for, e.g., ones that have uboot from 2014 + hundreds of patches, however, these are few and far between. For these, we can package them as RPMs and provide them (see note below re: licensing)
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* We will wait for the next Kernel.org LTS to be cut, as that should have all the changes for the boards we're talking about.
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* We will engage with our upstreams (Fedora, ELRepo, etc) for changes we make with the Kernel SIG for AltArch/SBC support.
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* This necessitates participating in SIG/Kernel to represent our needs in these kernels.
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* We should strive to perform native builds when possible, but recognize that emulation is a necessary evil.
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!!! note "uboot and other licensing"
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We need to ensure that we are careful about the licensing of softwares we wish to include in the SIG distribution.
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