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Rafael Lee
Sherif Nagy
Jason Rodriguez
Brian Clemens
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Old Business:
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Kernel 6.6.12 has been released and secureboot signed
Pablo did fix LTS build with different binutils package
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Sherif did talk about the SIGs and how SIG kernel interact and with SIG HPC, SIG altarch and fasttrack
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Few questions and explanation about NX and what does this means for SHIM and kernel-mainline
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Add more info to the wiki
Kernel packer for sbc variant
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