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<h1 id="sigkernel-meeting-2023-11-30">SIG/Kernel meeting 2023-11-30<a class="headerlink" href="#sigkernel-meeting-2023-11-30" title="Permanent link">¶</a></h1>
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<h2 id="attendees">Attendees<a class="headerlink" href="#attendees" title="Permanent link">¶</a></h2>
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<li>Sherif Nagy</li>
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<h2 id="discussions">Discussions<a class="headerlink" href="#discussions" title="Permanent link">¶</a></h2>
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<li>This SIG does have some overlap with SIG/Altarch<ul>
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